Dvir, I found custom (C1, C2, and C3) settings on this site regarding the Canon EOS R6. Do you have similar recommended settings for the Canon EOS R? If you do, I would love to have that information. Thank you for your assistance, it is greatly appreciated…
Winston
August 23, 2020 10:06 pm
I was so surprised when I read this article! I’ve passed that guy on the bike a million times at John Heinz, or rather he’s passed me! Lol. It was so weird to see him in this article. The only thing missing was the singing .
Chad
November 27, 2019 8:40 am
Truly appreciate this website! One of the best I’ve found for the perfect blend of content, creativity, and a down-to-terra firma approach to this great art!
Thanks for the great review. I’d love to see some updated material with the EOS’s latest firmware update… still on the fence between Canon, Sony, and Nikon… was a Nikon shooter for 15 years, EOS before that. Rented an A7III just to rule it out and actually enjoyed it (once it was customized). I’m still leaning toward the EOS even though the Nikon is the best overall camera (sans the variangle screen).
Thanks again, keep up the great work!
Punit Dubey
April 16, 2019 6:16 am
Great review. Any plans to review the younger brother (EOS RP). It could be a good option for a casual new entrant who doesnt want to spend lot but want everything :)
Spyros
April 9, 2019 10:28 pm
Great review. The question is Canon EOS R or Canon 5d Mark iv or none and wait for the 2020 releases?
KIRTI RANJAN NAYAK
March 25, 2019 9:55 pm
A welcome change from Canon, although its a bit delayed foray into the mirrorless segment. Would love to see a mirrorless upgrade next year for Canon 1DX MarkII.
Evgeny Zveniatsky
March 23, 2019 1:22 am
Hi Dvir, like your review to some extent.. Everything look balanced and realistic, until you started with usual compare to some other brands. I might be wrong, but there is some smell of your personal Sony’s sensor seniority in all fields. I’m not a Canon’s guy now, my brand of choice is Nikon, but few years ago my gear was completely Canon, and I must to confess that sometimes I miss that special Canon’s look to my photos. As to 24/47 mP race – there is nothing but pure commercial. Unless you print your images really huge… And please stop rate the quality of photos by DR, I haven’t meet any photographer, that needs to push the photos by +5EV, unless the man is blind.
Evgeny, I would like first to state that I am a Canon shooter and while I also use Sony cameras when I get the chance the bulk of the work you’ll find on my website was taken with Canon gear. Personally, I agree with you that out of the box Canon has better colors compared to Sony (whether shooting in RAW or Jpegs) as Canon photos tend to have a more magenta color and less of that green/yellow color cast sometimes seen in Sony/Nikon sensors. This leads to more pleasing out of the box colors and less work in post-processing trying to correct them. That said, with a little work I can get my Sony files to have pretty nice colors while still retaining the clear dynamic range/high ISO advantage of Sony sensors. Dynamic Range is not everything, but as a wildlife photographer who often shoots at ISO 12800+ when light levels get very low, I appreciate having the better noise control of Sony sensors and this advantage can make a big difference when I print. When it comes to the EOS R, probably the least essential difference between it and the Sony A7III is the sensor, with both cameras featuring excellent sensors. The difference in their handling, burst shooting performance, and autofocus performance is a different story, and here the A7III has a noticeable advantage.
Thank you for such prompt answer. As a retired wedding photographer, now shooting mostly landscapes and cityscapes. never use higher than 3200 ISO. I wish Canon/Nikon will give us as a basic ISO something around 25-32 ISO. About Sony – with all my respect to this great imaging company – they are great as a video gear company, and better stay in their familiar field.
Ertan
March 18, 2019 5:33 pm
I exchanged my A7III and 24-70mm f2.8GM with EOS R, 24-105 and 35mm and some money. It took 2 days to adapt the controls and now I feel very comfortable with controls and buttons. AF-C with 24-105 looks very good actually. Maybe a hair behind A7III and 24-70GM combo but not as bad as you write. AF-S is insanely fast and accurate and this camera can focus almost at any point in the frame which is good. I also haven’t felt hampered by the touch screen. I am also used to using 4-way controller to set AF point from some of my previous cameras but without gloves using the touch screen feels responsive and precise. I set the touch bar to AF modes, * to ISO change (together with front dial). And underexposing by 6 stops? This should be a crime :) It will never happen in real case scenarios. Never ever. It isn’t a disadvantage to Canon at all so that sections is a little misleading. It doesn’t matter if others can manage (which they cannot anyway), you are “testing” something that people will never do. I had used 5D IV before so I am familiar with this 30MP sensor. It is very good, in fact very very good.
Exactly, people get too obsessed with technicalities. In actual photography, it’s the usability and art side of things that counts. Images from the 5D IV/EOS R are beautiful, especially portraits shots. I said beautiful, not pixel level quality. It seems like almost everyone judge a camera on pixel level quality, and never step back and look at the big picture. I shot with Canon, Nikon and Fujifilm. I love the images from Canon. Nikon files are more neutral and flat in tonality, they are good base for photoshop. But there are times that we just want beautiful images right out of the camera. Good enough is enough, we don’t need to lug around an instrument from the laboratory. The photo equipment industry wants everyone to belief they need the newest and best.
what a fantastic comment! I’m sitting here debating between the sony and canon. I love Canon photos and colour science and the pictures just look amazing. yes we can pixel peeps and go on about camera features, but at the end of the day it’s how it feels and how the images look that really matter. I’m choosing the R over the a7iii because the images are, in my mind, appealing.
Giovanni
March 18, 2019 3:25 am
“This extreme coverage makes focusing techniques like Back-Button Focus almost superfluous on the EOS R ”
Can you please elaborate on this statement? Been shooting back-button-focus since ever and still doing it with the EOS R, but I may be misisng something.
This statement is mostly talking about the Focus and Recompose technique which one needs to employ nearly constantly while using a DSLR due to the focus points being mostly clustered around the center of the frame. With mirrorless bodies like the EOS R and Sony A7III, you have focus points which span nearly the entirety of the frame which makes the Focus and Recompose technique unnecessary. I sometimes still employ Back Button Focus when using mirrorless bodies to split control of the AF from the shutter button in certain situations but not nearly as much I employ it on my DSLR bodies.
SDKED
March 17, 2019 3:05 pm
Nice review which offers a good perspective from a fellow Canon shooter. I agree with many of your points.
Dvir, I found custom (C1, C2, and C3) settings on this site regarding the Canon EOS R6. Do you have similar recommended settings for the Canon EOS R? If you do, I would love to have that information. Thank you for your assistance, it is greatly appreciated…
I was so surprised when I read this article! I’ve passed that guy on the bike a million times at John Heinz, or rather he’s passed me! Lol. It was so weird to see him in this article. The only thing missing was the singing .
Truly appreciate this website! One of the best I’ve found for the perfect blend of content, creativity, and a down-to-terra firma approach to this great art!
Thanks for the great review. I’d love to see some updated material with the EOS’s latest firmware update… still on the fence between Canon, Sony, and Nikon… was a Nikon shooter for 15 years, EOS before that. Rented an A7III just to rule it out and actually enjoyed it (once it was customized). I’m still leaning toward the EOS even though the Nikon is the best overall camera (sans the variangle screen).
Thanks again, keep up the great work!
Great review. Any plans to review the younger brother (EOS RP). It could be a good option for a casual new entrant who doesnt want to spend lot but want everything :)
Great review. The question is Canon EOS R or Canon 5d Mark iv or none and wait for the 2020 releases?
A welcome change from Canon, although its a bit delayed foray into the mirrorless segment. Would love to see a mirrorless upgrade next year for Canon 1DX MarkII.
Hi Dvir,
like your review to some extent.. Everything look balanced and realistic, until you started with usual compare to some other brands. I might be wrong,
but there is some smell of your personal Sony’s sensor seniority in all fields. I’m not a Canon’s guy now, my brand of choice is Nikon, but few years ago
my gear was completely Canon, and I must to confess that sometimes I miss that special Canon’s look to my photos. As to 24/47 mP race – there is nothing but pure commercial. Unless you print your images really huge… And please stop rate the quality of photos by DR, I haven’t meet any photographer, that needs to push the photos by +5EV, unless the man is blind.
Evgeny, I would like first to state that I am a Canon shooter and while I also use Sony cameras when I get the chance the bulk of the work you’ll find on my website was taken with Canon gear. Personally, I agree with you that out of the box Canon has better colors compared to Sony (whether shooting in RAW or Jpegs) as Canon photos tend to have a more magenta color and less of that green/yellow color cast sometimes seen in Sony/Nikon sensors. This leads to more pleasing out of the box colors and less work in post-processing trying to correct them. That said, with a little work I can get my Sony files to have pretty nice colors while still retaining the clear dynamic range/high ISO advantage of Sony sensors. Dynamic Range is not everything, but as a wildlife photographer who often shoots at ISO 12800+ when light levels get very low, I appreciate having the better noise control of Sony sensors and this advantage can make a big difference when I print. When it comes to the EOS R, probably the least essential difference between it and the Sony A7III is the sensor, with both cameras featuring excellent sensors. The difference in their handling, burst shooting performance, and autofocus performance is a different story, and here the A7III has a noticeable advantage.
Thank you for such prompt answer. As a retired wedding photographer, now shooting mostly landscapes and cityscapes. never use higher than 3200 ISO. I wish Canon/Nikon will give us as a basic ISO something around 25-32 ISO. About Sony – with all my respect to this great imaging company – they are great as a video gear company, and better stay in their familiar field.
I exchanged my A7III and 24-70mm f2.8GM with EOS R, 24-105 and 35mm and some money. It took 2 days to adapt the controls and now I feel very comfortable with controls and buttons. AF-C with 24-105 looks very good actually. Maybe a hair behind A7III and 24-70GM combo but not as bad as you write. AF-S is insanely fast and accurate and this camera can focus almost at any point in the frame which is good.
I also haven’t felt hampered by the touch screen. I am also used to using 4-way controller to set AF point from some of my previous cameras but without gloves using the touch screen feels responsive and precise.
I set the touch bar to AF modes, * to ISO change (together with front dial).
And underexposing by 6 stops? This should be a crime :) It will never happen in real case scenarios. Never ever. It isn’t a disadvantage to Canon at all so that sections is a little misleading. It doesn’t matter if others can manage (which they cannot anyway), you are “testing” something that people will never do.
I had used 5D IV before so I am familiar with this 30MP sensor. It is very good, in fact very very good.
Exactly, people get too obsessed with technicalities. In actual photography, it’s the usability and art side of things that counts. Images from the 5D IV/EOS R are beautiful, especially portraits shots. I said beautiful, not pixel level quality. It seems like almost everyone judge a camera on pixel level quality, and never step back and look at the big picture. I shot with Canon, Nikon and Fujifilm. I love the images from Canon. Nikon files are more neutral and flat in tonality, they are good base for photoshop. But there are times that we just want beautiful images right out of the camera. Good enough is enough, we don’t need to lug around an instrument from the laboratory. The photo equipment industry wants everyone to belief they need the newest and best.
what a fantastic comment! I’m sitting here debating between the sony and canon. I love Canon photos and colour science and the pictures just look amazing. yes we can pixel peeps and go on about camera features, but at the end of the day it’s how it feels and how the images look that really matter. I’m choosing the R over the a7iii because the images are, in my mind, appealing.
“This extreme coverage makes focusing techniques like Back-Button Focus almost superfluous on the EOS R ”
Can you please elaborate on this statement?
Been shooting back-button-focus since ever and still doing it with the EOS R, but I may be misisng something.
Thanks
Giovanni,
This statement is mostly talking about the Focus and Recompose technique which one needs to employ nearly constantly while using a DSLR due to the focus points being mostly clustered around the center of the frame. With mirrorless bodies like the EOS R and Sony A7III, you have focus points which span nearly the entirety of the frame which makes the Focus and Recompose technique unnecessary. I sometimes still employ Back Button Focus when using mirrorless bodies to split control of the AF from the shutter button in certain situations but not nearly as much I employ it on my DSLR bodies.
Nice review which offers a good perspective from a fellow Canon shooter. I agree with many of your points.