Nikon D600 Release Imminent

I have just received a link to a Chinese forum, where pictures of the upcoming Nikon D600 have been posted. These pictures look very real to me, so looks like the Nikon D600 will be released soon for sure. In addition, Nikon has just released two lenses, one of which (the Nikon 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR) is specifically designed to be a cheap full-frame lens. I don’t think it would really suit the Nikon D800′s demanding sensor in terms of performance. Here are the pics of the D600 from the forum:

Nikon D600 - Image 1

Nikon D600 - Image 2

This very much looks like a full-frame sensor in a D7000 body style.

Nikon D600 - Image 3

Judging by the pics, the D600 will be small and light with all the guts of the Nikon D7000. At this point, I would say that it is highly likely that we will see a high-end DX camera from Nikon as well, because this camera is nothing like the Nikon D300s. I also doubt that we will see a Nikon D7000 replacement this year, since it would be too much for Nikon to handle so many cameras, given how much stress the D800 orders are putting on Nikon’s manufacturing capabilities.

Wow, what a crazy year it is for Nikon! I very much hope that they allocate more manufacturing resources for the D600, since the demand will be even crazier than for the D800.

I will be posting the lens announcements shortly.


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Comments

  1. 1
    ) David B

    So Nasim, just like I predicted, the exact the same body with the same dials like D7000, the little dial to accomodate C1 and C2 user settings. Very tempting if the price is right, and the size is small. If the price is right, this will be harder to buy than D800. Also sounds like they decided tokeep ISO button hidden among other buttons just like D7000. In fact, looks like not much imagination went into this one, just stick a FX sensor into D7000 body :)

    • David, yup, exactly – looks like they took the D7000 and put an FX sensor into it.

    • but they seem to have fixed one of the most annoying parts of the D7000 and gave it a locking mode dial. I shoot events with 2 D7000s on sling-style straps and boy does the lack of a mode-dial trip you up but fierce! if they increased buffer depth, then this one has my dollars…

      • I agree with your comments, Nikon should issue an update for D7000 dslr to consumer response

    • 186
      ) Richard

      I hope they replace the actual shutter release button with an upgraded one. I have a D7000 and have shot a D4 and the shutter release is much smoother and less disturbing to the camera on the D4. From the photo above, it would appear that Nikon have not revised the position of the shutter release button which is unfortunate. The position of the D4 shutter release is much more ergonomic…and the D4s little joystick on the back to select focus sensors is remarkably easy to use, intuitive and quicker. The joystick should be incorporated on all of Nikon’s DSLRs. It’s that good.

      “Surely” Nikon have increased the buffer on the D600. Failure to do so may severely limit the camera’s capability when shooting in RAW.

  2. 2
    ) David B

    I meant one would have to pre-order within the first 2 minutes to have any chance of getting it before Xmas

  3. 3
    ) David B

    The only two mysteries, is the display 3 or 3.2 inches, and are they going to put some new 24MP sensor in it, or recycle the old one from D3X?

    • David, given the size and weight of the camera, it is probably going to be 3 inches. I would say the sensor is what has been rumored, which is 24 MP FX CMOS.

      • 12
        ) David B

        I think it is important to find out who will make the sensor. If it is as rumored by the same company that designed Nikon 1 series sensors, I am not excited at all. If Sony had anything to do with the new sensor, I might be excited more :)

  4. 4
    ) Manu

    Exciting stuff!! I’ve been thinking of purchasing a D7000 since the prices are beginning to drop. But I might wait and get the D600 instead – I reckon it would be a fair performance boost for a higher price. What do you reckon Nasim ?

    • Manu, at this point I would highly recommend to wait.

      • 46
        ) Luis C.

        Advice taken!!!

        I was thinking 28mm, 50mm, 85mm 1.8G for starters since I have no Nikon glass

        How exciting… giddy

      • 127
        ) Sudath

        Advice taken..! I have been planing to buy D7000 too.

  5. 5
    ) Brian

    Should I trade my D700 for the D600?

    • Brian, the D600 will be nothing like the D700. The Nikon D700 has a pro AF system – the same from the Nikon D3/D3s/D3x, while this camera will have the same AF as on the D7000. Personally, I would not trade D700 for the D600 for this reason, unless AF is not important for your photography.

      • 11
        ) David B

        Nasim but you would trade D700 for D600 if D600′s sensor would be much much superior, despite the lesser AF, right?

        • David, if I only used it for landscapes and simple things, then yes. But for wildlife and event photography – I would have to think twice. Everything depends on how good the sensor will be in comparison though. If there is no improvement in ISO performance after down-sampling, then probably not. But if we are talking 1 stop or more, then yes :)

          Either way, this will be a very successful camera for Nikon!

          • 15
            ) David B

            Successful is understatement. If the price is anywhere near the rumored $1500, based on what I’e seen with D7000 in 2010 and with D800 and D4 in 2012, if you don’t pre-order the D600 within the first 15 to 30 seconds after it becomes available, you probably won’t see one before Xmas.

            • Hahahah, so true! All right, I promise to make the pre-order links available before ordering the D600 myself :D

  6. 14
    ) Mike

    Well, looks like it’s a reality and I’m happy it is. I’m not on the market for another cam but it will be nice to see an entry level FX body. Nikon is doing well, and will have an impressive lineup of cams by years end.

    One thing I’m not sure about though, if they release the DX D400 at 24mp and already have a D3200 at 24mp is there room in the DX lineup for two more cams (5xxx, 7xxx)? I’m not sure there is, and to me it would make more sense to have 3 DX cams and 3 FX cams.

    • Mike, I doubt we will see three DX announcements this year – it would be too much for Nikon. I think this year it is just D3200 and D400 and next year we will see a D5200 and D7100.

      • 23
        ) Mike

        Nasim, I didn’t think they would announce the new DX cams this year. My point is if there is room in the lineup for D3200, D5200, D7100, D400. If the top and bottom cams in DX are 24mp and share the same sensor, what do you do with the models in between? You can’t really have four cams in the DX lineup all with the same sensor, it will be very difficult to differentiate them in the market. Add to that a 24mp FX D600 and you now have 5 24mp cams in the lineup. Then you have the flagship with ‘only’ 18mp. What is this world coming to? :)

  7. 16
    ) Feroz Khan

    Nazim, are you saying that the D300s replacement will be a better performer than the D600?

    • Feroz, I am saying that the D300s replacement will be a faster, better built camera with a better and more accurate AF system. Sensor-wise, the D600 should be better, but time will tell!

  8. 17
    ) gerald

    Hi Nasim.
    This sounds really interesting.
    I have a D300 now and my main use is Nature Photography and Makro work. Do you think the D600 would be nice as a second body for the macro shots because of it’s higher resolution?

    by the way, your site is really interesting, you provide nice infos. Great work!

    regards gerald

    • Gerald, for nature and macro, I would say the D600 would be a better fit than the D300 you have now. So you might have to designate the D300 as a second body, not the other way around :) It is not just about higher resolution, but we are talking of a sensor more than twice bigger than the one on the D300!

      • 25
        ) gerald

        Yes, but i owned a D60 and the Autofokus System didn’t catch up with my needs at all. When i tried to capture my dog while running or bird in flight… And the Autofokus in the D300 fulfills my needs …
        So, for Wildlife i will use my D300 and for Nature and Macro the D600 would be a nice option, because focus in nature or macs is normally manual…
        thanks for your reply..

      • 32
        ) gerald

        or should i save more and take the D800 for Landscape, Nature and Macro shots?
        But for high iso, do you think the D600 would be better? I don’t really care about fps, when i need action shots, i have my D300…

  9. 22
    ) John Richardson

    These are indeed the halcyon days of digital photography.
    So many options to follow different paths into different futures.

  10. 24
    ) thhh

    That looks like a screw drive on the mount? I’m not familiar with Nikons so could someone verify?

    • 26
      ) David B

      Yes, you can clearly see it, it is the ‘screwdriver’ on the mount, there is no question about it. You can clearly see it in pictures

  11. 27
    ) Jay

    Since I know how to read chinese, i went to the link and read some comments myself. Looks to be the real deal. Price point is probably going to be around 1600-1800 (same price as used d700). As in D400 vs d600, well if Nikon decide to actually replace the d300/s with the d400, a more powerful focus system and sensor is expected compare to d600 assuming the d600 is not the replacement for d700. D800 can not be exactly consider a replacement for the d700, it does for some people since it splits the d700 user group into two. I would love to see a d700 replacement in the field of sports or wild life, faster focus and more fps than the d800 obviously. But like most of you guys pointed out, I doubt the d600 is going to be like the d700 in terms of fps and auto focus, the camera body look too much like a toy for serious FX user since it’s… plastic. (I prefer metal body, bigger size, with a bit more weight on it, and much more durable).

  12. 28
    ) Christian

    I hoped that the D600 will be a “worse D800″ and not a “better D7000″. Now, things seem to be different…

    However, on the one side, I would like to await the first D600 reviews before ordering, on the other side, I know that the D600 will be highly demanded so that one has to order immediately upon announcement to get one in reasonable time. Complicated affair…

    • 29
      ) Jay

      My perspective of Nikon line up.
      Sports/Wild life, Portrait/landscape
      D4 , D3x
      D700 , D800
      Missing , D600?
      D300/s /d400 , d7000/d3200?
      and then there’s a d3000, d5000, d5100 which is sorta out there some where, since they are basically beginner do it all camera (not that they are bad camera), but doesnt the d3200 sound better than all of them with it’s price and it’s impressive dx sensor. I never used a d3200 yet, so you tell me.

      I agree, hopefully the d600 is a d800 minus. I can’t wait to see what Nikon put out to replace the d700 for sports/wild life that require fast af

    • 30
      ) David B

      nothing complicated, pre-order it, use it for few months, if you don’t like it, sell it at the same price to the less fortunate who did not pre-order immediately. If you like it, keep it. It is a win-win situation. You can’t lose.

    • 40
      ) Jerry

      Why is having a potential D600 quickly of such importance? Can’t you wait a couple of extra month’s to spend your money ?

  13. 31
    ) Levin G

    Nasim, do you believe Nikon will put a pentamirror in the D600? The pictures look like it won’t fit an FX prism…

    • 42
      ) C

      Nasim, I am too worried that the VF part is way too small for a pentaprism of 100% coverage FF. I am afraid it would not be 100% or it would be a pentamirror instead of pentaprism. What is your opinion on that? Thank you!

  14. 33
    ) Timothy Behuniak

    This is perfect! I’m in the market for a new DSLR and I Was looking at the d300s, but these D600 and D400 cameras look very tempting!! Plus, the new 24-85 and 18-300 to complement both cameras is amazing!!! Now the question is which one to choose?? Which would you choose-a high-end DX or low-end FX camera?? So many decisions!

    • 35
      ) Jay

      Well as i predicted a few post above, assuming the d400 follows the direction of the d300/s, and that the d600 follows the direction of d7000/d800, then the d400 should be geared more towards sports/wild life (higher fps, faster focusing), while the d600 would be geared more towards portraits/landscape (higher quality sensor, image quality?) .

      • 36
        ) Timothy Behuniak

        Thanks, I’m sort of a “capture-everything-sort-of-photographer” so I think I’m going to go with the D400 even though its a DX, cropped sensor, it has higher fps but i do shoot some landscapes, tough decision again. But the D400 does look better overall.

  15. 34
    ) Timothy Behuniak

    Think I’d rather choose the D400-this D600 is beginning to look more like a toy than a serious FX camera.

  16. 37
    ) Srini

    Nazim,

    If I cannot afford a D800 (as it is cost prohibitive in the UK), would you recommend an entry level FX D600 or a high end DX D400? Please remember, I need to build lenses from scratch. I am not a pro; it is for personal use / hobby.

    Thanks,
    Sundar

  17. 38
    ) christophe

    i think that i am going to keep my D200…i tried a d7000 but it looks so small, so forget the d600!!!
    i will save more money for a D800!!!!!

    ps: i really love my D200!!!!! even at iso 1600 with the right exposure ( i shoot Spot metering), the images looks great when printed as 8×10

  18. 39
    ) D1000

    Hi Nasim, do you think the samples of the new 24-85 on nikon’s web site were taken with the upcoming d600? Is it possible that the d600 will be announced before photokina? It sounds a bit odd to me that real leaked pictures of the camera are on the web almost 4 months before….

  19. 41
    ) Bo

    Hi Nasim,

    That Chinese Forum is one of the best in China, so glad to see that you even put an eye on China side. hohohoho! :)

    • Bo, agreed – now I have to learn Chinese :)

  20. 43
    ) Aron

    Cutrently, I use two d7000s for various events and concerts (I opted for the d7000 because of the 6400 ISO). I’m starting to migrate towards more portrait work (families, engagement photos, weddings)… I’ve been debating about getting a slightly used d700 for a step into full frame. Any suggestions on that versus the d600? While it might sound “silly” to me it feels odd to step back to 12mp if I do that move… But the d700 has a better focusing system. Ok, I may have jut confused myself…

  21. 44
    ) AJ

    D600 seems like quite a safe bet for myself where I often need to go ‘wider’ in generally good light conditions. Maybe the High Iso performance might not be up there with the D700/D800 but in comparison with a (hopefully) D300S upgrade it will probably match the later IRO high Iso performance due to the different sensor sizes – that’s assuming the D300S replacement comes in also at around 24 MP.
    Either way, this camera will probably out-sell the D800 by a significant margin if the price indications are correct.
    Also would form a good partner for a D300GLS when (if) it arrives :-)

  22. 47
    ) Jorge Balarin

    Dear Nassim,

    Is it not good enough the D7000 autofocus system ?

    • Jorge, the D7000 has a good AF system, but it is not the same class as what the pro-level cameras have. If you shoot a lot of sports and wildlife, then the more advanced AF system will produce better results (assuming you know how to use it). For general-purpose photography, the AF system on the D600 is excellent.

      • 63
        ) RRRoger

        I use a D7000 for Events.
        I like the size, weight, and layout of controls.
        The AF may not be up to a D4 but it is better than anything Canon has.
        The D600 will have an Expeed 3 Processor.
        If it has a much larger cache it will be faster and more accurate.
        I am already on my local suppliers list to get their first one.
        If as good as I expect, I will take two for my Event Photography Business.
        We do Equestrian, Runs, and MotoCross.

        • 71
          ) Eagle

          if the D600 will have expeed 3 than it should make 16 bit, right
          and will it have the 91k RGB sensor ?

          • 73
            ) RRRoger

            I doubt if it will be more than 14 bit.
            But it should have the 92k RGB Sensor.

            • 76
              ) Eagle

              91K sesnor would be awesome, well 14 bit is more than enough only medium format and 2 from nikon have 16, but since it is a new camera and will have expeed 3 i would like if it had 16 bit

  23. 48
    ) Drazen B.

    Nasim, you’re slowly putting the guys from nikonrumors.com out of business :)

    Interesting release indeed. As you mention it pretty much mirrors the D7000 design although the D600 body seems to be more compact (width) with top sides a little more slanted. The top LCD does look a tad wider than the one on D7000. Internal AF motor is a bonus, indeed.

    I’m still keeping an eye to the ground re top-end DX replacement, being it either D400 or D7100, though. Would like to stick to DX format longer term. An FX camera opens up a whole new ‘can of worms’ when it comes to lenses :)

    Let’s wait for more details, interesting days ahead indeed.

    • Drazen, nah, I would not want to be a rumor site. Peter (NR admin) is a good friend and we always keep in touch, exchange news, etc.

      I agree about the D600 design – it does look a little more “compressed”.

      I think it would be logical for Nikon to release a pro-level DX camera. Judging from the comments here and emails that I have been receiving, there is quite a bit of interest in such a camera body…

  24. 49
    ) Jack Headley

    Hi,
    I just picked up a D5100, I can still take it back for full refund. I picked it up to replace a D3100 because of the great price. What do you think the pricing of the D600 will start at? Will it be in the category of the D5100 with the auto settings or will it be more the pro set.

    Thanks

    • 50
      ) Drazen B.

      D5100 is a great camera and a very powerful photographic tool. Not exactly a huge step up from 3100 but a step-up nevertheless. I’d stick to it for a while and try to get the best out of it before deciding to upgrade to full-frame format, remember you need to think about pairing a D600 with FX-type lenses, which aren’t exactly ‘cheap’ and are larger in weight and dimensions than comparable DX lenses.

      The newly announced Nikkor AF-S 24-85 full frame lens may be a good starting point as an affordable wide-zoom lens, though. That said, I don’t believe FX 24-85 will perform noticeably better than a 18-55 DX kit lens. Stick to your D5100 and start saving pennies for good FX lenses…AF-S 50mm f/1.8 prime as a start? This lens can also be used on D5100 at a 1.5X DX crop factor as a nice prime 75mm portrait lens with very nice bokeh.

      But that’s just me, you might well disagree :)

      • 51
        ) Jack Headley

        Thanks,
        I do have the 50mm along with the 85mm macro, 55-200mm & 70-300mm. Thanks for your input and I think I’ll take your advice

    • The rumour is that the D600 will be inexpensive for an FX body but at $1500 – $1800 still around three times the price of the D5100

    • Jack, I agree with Drazen – FX is not for everyone, mostly due to higher cost of lenses, more weight, etc. Photograph some more, learn to use your D5100 and you can always upgrade to FX in the future…

  25. Nikon D600 when release date Please lets me know :( :( contact us email : devinwijes@gmail.com

    I love Nikon D600 full Frame :) :) 24.7 MP

    Thank
    Devin Wijesena

    • Devin, just subscribe to our website via email (see the link on the top and on the side of the site) and we will post announcements on the day it is released.

      • Nikon D600 Coming up – June or September ??? Which one ?

  26. 53
    ) Michael

    This is great news,Nikon will sell a ton of these.I’m actually waiting on a D400 though and hopefully by the time it is released Nikon shooters will have spent all of their money on D4′s D800′s and D600′s and I won’t have to wait 5 or six months to get a D400 in my hands ;)

    • Michael, judging by the feedback, this might actually sell more than the D800. So Nikon might have pretty bad supply issues with it as well.

      • 62
        ) Drazen.B

        It’s slowly getting out of control :)

        The only way to combat this from Nikon’s side would be to release a top-end pro-like DX camera (DX400?) at the same time as the FX D600. Then the choice would be a little harder to make for most of those caught in the middle of a DX-vs-FX decision. It will also make it a lot more confusing, so the posts and questions like “Which camera should I choose – a pro-DX or an enthusiast-FX” will flood the photo forums in the near future. :)

        Ah, the choices…

        It’s all good though, we never had it this good ever since the DSLR evolution started in 2002.

  27. 54
    ) Antonio

    I am somewhat excited about this new camera. I went from a D7K to a D700 and I love the ergonomics of the D700 better; more especially the viewfinder. The dynamic range of the D7K was a lot better imo but I did not care for the lackluster auto focusing system. Although I and plan to purchasing the D600 I think I will have to hold on to my tried and true D700.

  28. 64
    ) tatan

    if the price tag of this new D600 will be inside to my budget, then its time for me to upgrade my camera from DX to FX… i will wait first for the anouncement of this camera and hold my money to buy for a new telephoto lens as my priority… but what do you think about the video capability of this D600..? at the moment, im using a D90.. then it will be a big leap for me in terms of video..

  29. 65
    ) abhijit singh

    Nikon is announcing shortly, confirmed news:

    Nikon D600 with kit lens- AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm F3.5-4.5G ED VR

    All this for 1999 USD

    • 66
      ) Drazen.B

      Hey Ab,
      where did you hear that?
      If this is true, that would cement a rumor of body-only price of $1499 from 2 months ago.

      Let’s hope this isn’t only wishful thinking…;)

      • 67
        ) David B

        No, you usually get a discount when you buy a lens with a body, so I suspect something like $1699 or $1799 for a body alone.

        • 68
          ) Drazen.B

          There’s a discount for sure, but not as big as you point out ;) At that price they would be giving the lens away almost for free. Don’t forget these while low-cost FF lens, are not bog standard el-cheapo kit lens, either.

          The Nikkor 24-85 VRII lens alone is SRP $600, and judging by the previous discounts for the lens+camera kit I got in the past which wasn’t much (D7000 + Nikkor 16-85), a discounted price of ~ $500 for this lens would be just about right.

  30. I think it’s a fake, but this technical specifications are very nice.

  31. 72
    ) btobey

    Unlike the D800, the D600 will not be produced in Japan. Therefor I suspect a better production turn out. All in all, you should still pre-order as fast as you can, if you are interested.

    • We can all hope so! Nikon is still having a hard time catching up with all the D800 pre-orders…

  32. 74
    ) Kevin

    going to upgrade from my lovely D80 & cant wait to have some high iso, FX-ness.
    Dont need 12fps auto but will this camera have a 100% view finder?

    The thing i loved about the D80 was its size, with the 50mm 1.8G it was the perfect traveling camera & was looking at the micro 4/3rds cameras, but Nikon might as well just have just killed the high end of that market.

    a great small high powered Full framed camera and for under £1200!! yes please.

  33. 75
    ) Ale

    Nasim i can’t wait for the d600 to be on the market and for you to try it and review it!

    I am sure a lot of people, including me, are gonna wait for your ever-precise and experience-based comments that will satisfy our curiosity and make the decision way easier to make.

    great website, thanks for sharing so much knowledge. keep it runnin’ =)

    • Ale, thank you for your feedback – I will definitely review it after it becomes available! Hopefully sooner than later :)

  34. 77
    ) shannon

    How does preordering work? When (around what time of day and date) do you expect we will be able to?

    • Shannon, I will provide pre-order information on this website once the camera is officially released…

  35. 78
    ) Drazen B.

    Some of you guys crack me up…how do you think you can pre-order a camera that hasn’t been even announced yet?

    Think Photokina, second part of September…plenty of time to save up for it :)

  36. 79
    ) Randall

    My local camera shop takes preorders on unreleased cameras. I am first on the list for a D600.

    • 80
      ) RRRoger

      Mine takes preorders with no deposit + they have a no quibble return policy if I don’t like it.
      I am already on the D600 list but not interested in a D300DX upgrade.

    • 115
      ) Bill

      My camera shop is taking pre-orders, too. If the price is $1500-1600 with lens I will buy. Otherwise it is a D800 for me.

  37. 84
    ) Eagle

    This cam will have bigger pixels than D800 but it will still retain the big MP number so we should have a great ISO perfromance, awesome dynamic range, it will have 14 bits and when combined with 24MP and bigger pixels at around 5,9-6.0 pixel pitch we will have a great coloure depth, when combine that with expeed 3 procesor it should have a great coloure performance that would be awesome for portreits, it will have 5fps in fx and prrobably 6-7 fps in DX with the new battery grip, camera will be weather seald and have 100% viewfinder with dual card slots and when combined with 28mm 1.8G nano crstaly coted lens that are specificly desgined to be mounted on a high resolution nikon camera we will have an outstading images that i suppose could rivale the best sensors out there, cant wait for a DXoMark results

    • 85
      ) Eagle Crna Gora

      on one side we have a D4 with these big big pixels, but with a smaller resoultion, that is not small but smaller than D800, that offer an outstading low ISO performance and awesome quality, and on the other side we have D800 which has a huge amount of MP and offers and outstanding dynamic range and what comes in bettwen them the D600
      Nikon D4 – D600 – D800
      FX – FX – FX
      16 MP – 24MP – 36 MP
      7.3µm – 5.9µm – 4.8µm
      14bit – 14bit – 14bit
      expeed 3 – expeed 3 – expeed 3
      91k RGB sensor – 91K RGB sensor- 91K RGB sensor
      10fps – 5fps (6 or 7fps in DX with battery grip)- 4 fps (6fps in DX with the battery grip)
      12.800 ISO – 6.400 ISO – 6.400 ISO
      51 AFp (15 Cross) – 39 AFp (9 Cross) – 51 AFp (15 Cross)

      • 86
        ) Aron

        Eagle, that is a great comparison! Do you have similar data for the last generation of Nikon fx cameras(d700, d3s and d3x)?

        • 89
          ) Eagle Crna Gora

          if u meant this direct spec comparison above then yes i can make one for the D700 and D3x and
          d3s
          D700 – D3s – D3X
          FX – FX – FX
          12.1MP- 12.1MP – 24.4MP
          8.45µm – 8.45µm – 5.95µm
          14bit – 14bit – 14 bit
          expeed 2 – expeed 2 – expeed 2
          1.005 RGB sensor – 1.005 RGB sensor – 1.005 RGB sensor
          5fps (8fps with the battery grip) – 9fps (11fps in DX mode) – 5fps (7fps in DX mode)
          6400 ISO (25600) – 12800 ISO (102400) – 1600 ISO (6400)
          51 AFp (15 Cross) – 51 AFp (15 Cross) – 51 AFp (15 Cross)

          AF on all 3 cameras is Multi-CAM 3500FX

          • 90
            ) Drazen B.

            That’s all very well, now be a true Eagle and get outside and start shooting some photos ;)

            • 100
              ) Eagle Crna Gora

              lol :D
              ok, i will

          • 91
            ) aron

            Thanks! How did you figure out the pixel size? And any idea of the differences between expeed 2/3 and 1.005/91K RGB Sensor?

            • 92
              ) babola

              The statements that include “..it will have…” or “..it will come with…” for new and unreleased products based on rumours aren’t much different from conspiracy theories, IMO.

              Not sure how can anyone bar Nikon representative(s) claim such a detailed specs at this stage. Funny….not.

            • 101
              ) Eagle Crna Gora

              pixel size is a ratio betwen the image sensor size (FX, DX APS-C) and number of megapixels (resolution),
              the difference between the expeed 2 and expeed 3 is speed, the 3 is more powerfull and is able to proces more information than 2 so if we have two identicaly same cameras but one with the expeed 2 and one with 3,the camera with e. 3 would have more fps, the second difference is processing pipeline, expeed 3 can proces the photos much better and they have less noisy than the ones with e. 2, so it is speed and better procesing (less noise and better coloure reproduction=bigger colour depth, the D800 has 16/bit procesing which means that even though it doesnt capture 16 bit, it can proces 14-bit ones and make them 16 bit, cool ha , higher ISO) also faster data trensfer .

              Metering is used for auto mode or anytime when u are not manually chosing shutter speed and/or aperture and ISO, the meter (sensor) measures the amount of light (brighnes, colour tones etc) and choses the correct expousure and a more natural-looking photo, the more pixels the meter has the more accurate it is , so a 91k will be 90 times more accurate and much faster, but also u it is not all about pixels u have to see is it a meter black and white or RGB, luckly all Nikons are RGB and also what kind of tehnology does the sensor use, the 91k uses advance scene recognition that can detect faces with outstanding accuracy and there are plenty of why would u need a fast and accurate face detection, the 1005 pixel sensor uses scene recognition system not the advance one like a 91k uses, so meter is used for auto-exposure, auto-white balance, auto-focus and flash control so a better meter will have more accurate AF and more accurate white balance

    • 93
      ) Drazen B.

      Hmm, just wondering how can you state all this with such a certainty based on rumoured specifications alone. Not disputing it, please don’t get me wrong just puzzled how you seem to know all these little details at this early stage, that’s all.

      You’re not working for Nikon by any chance, are you? :)

      • 94
        ) babola

        +1
        I’ll have to agree with your observation, Drazen.

  38. 87
    ) Karl Beck

    Hello Nasim,
    You say that the D600 will be nothing like the D700 because it will not have a professional AF system. Do you mean that a D600 equipped with the 39-point AF system and the EXPEED2 image processing engine used by the D7000 will be inferior to the AF system used by the 4-year old D700? I would like to know since I am thinking of buying a used or refurbished D700 or wait for the new D600. I am interested in a camera that has good low light sensitivity and a moderate MP count.

    • 88
      ) RRRoger

      I have a D7000 and can verify the 39pt AF system is very good.
      It will be better after Nikon tweaks it and adds the Expeed 3 processor.

      As for comparing it with the D700, The D7000 is very close in AF and ISO capabilities and has a slightly superior Sensor.
      The bigger differences are in controls, body size & weight, and between FX and DX.

  39. 95
    ) Adrian

    I’m struggling with the decision over a D700 now or D600 in the future.

    On quite a few forums you will see people say “if you can afford it get the 800″ when talking about a 700 upgrade. For some, that might be right. But the ONLY thing I’m really interested in upgrading from my D90 for is low-light performance. The other positives will mostly come by default when switching to an FX (DOF and colour rendition, IQ etc etc).

    The more I think, I realise the crux of the matter for me is that there is a price difference of $1,100 here between the 800 and 700 and for me the 800 doesn’t deliver $1,100 worth of low-light improvement. From what I read it seems the 800 is either the same or marginally better in terms of low-light unless cropping really hard, and I rarely do. I would only spend the extra $1,100 on a significant, not marginal improvement in performance in low-light over the 700. The low-light users are still waiting for their model I believe.

    I suppose the 600 COULD be it, with 24MP and a better sensor. The issue there would perhaps be how much will it cost and how many corners they may have to cut if it is to come in at $1,500 for body only. If it’s $2,000 ‘body only’ it might carry enough features perhaps not to be too ‘entry’ level compared to the 700. I’m still sorely tempted to go for a 700 now. I have a feeling that despite being old tech it will still be a class camera.

    Many talk about the 600 being compromised and lacking in features compared to the 700/800, with functions buried in menus and poorer AF etc. If so I might be more inclined towards a 700 BUT it’s the pictures I can get that will count. Compromised or not the 600 would still be a contender if low-light performance was significantly better than the 700, if DR is better AND it wasn’t too cut back quality wise.

    Part of me hopes that the 600 will be $2,000 for body only. A few weeks back the 700 was still a $2,700 camera ‘body only’. Is it possible the 600 can compete at $1,500 today, even with technology advances?

    I suppose that it still makes sense to wait, maybe the 700 will drop further if the 600 gets close to it performance wise. Then again, the 700 might then be very hard to get.

    • 96
      ) RRRoger

      A lot depends on how much you like your D90.
      The D7000 DX is a huge improvement in all features but especially in low light.
      The D600 FX will probably be also.

      The D700FX would be my third choice even though it is an excellent camera.
      Because the camera is larger and heavier.
      If that is your choice, why not get a used one or wait till the D600 is announced?
      I expect that there will be a perceived dumping at that time.
      There will be no shortage and the price will almost certainly be lower if only for a short while.

  40. 97
    ) Adrian

    Well, I like the D90 but it’s not really relevant to the decision I have to take now. I will keep the D90. The 7000 is not an option for me. I have the Nikkor 2.8 zooms and plan to get the best out of the. The IQ, DR and DOF rendition of FX is also important.

    So it’s either a 700 or 600. The 800 is out for the reasons stated above.

    I think I’m going to have to wait for the 600 to materialise. Like I say, reduced functionality or not I’d kick myself if the high-ISO was improved over the 700, especially if the leaked images are wrong and it comes in a more traditional FX body.

    • 98
      ) Wochomi

      People tell me not to upgrade to D7000 from my current D90. The low-light performance argument is what is all about here. Cleaner and more dynamic range. Though the low light performance is really good on the D7000, but it’s a matter of putting in light when there ain’t enough for D90 to work with (speed light). I cannot afford the D800, nor comfortable with the size and weight. I hope the D600 will be smaller than the D700.

      But most importantly… please please please… do not give us the body surface plastic like those on D7000 ! The ‘textured’ surface can literally come off as black particles when rubbed! I know they’re gonna cut corners on D600… sigh….

      • 99
        ) Adrian

        Yep, D7000 is a non-starter for me. Speedlights (which I have) not usable in many of my shooting environments, flash banned in many (catwalk).

        I’ve decided to wait on the D600. If it comes out and high-ISO is better than than the 700 (one stop and preferably two of ISO ‘clear / usable’ as Thom Hogan puts it), especially if it’s much better and the DR is better too I will likely go for the 600, even if I prefer the 700 body more. It’s getting the shots I need I’m after, body quality as a second and ‘button accessed features’ third.

        If however the 600 is ONLY as good as the 700 in terms of high-ISO and the body is compromised to hit a low price (say $1,500 for body only as opposed to $2,000 – a level at which they MIGHT be able to retain build quality and functionality) I’ll go with a new 700, old tech or not. The 700 body is now $1,900 here in Malaysia and may drop even more once the 600 comes out. I really hope that Nikon (not users) announce the 600 as the 700 replacement, doubt it somehow though. I think that body is yet to come.

        The 600 and 400 are the only two reasonable sure bets on the horizon at the moment and even the 400 is less certain. I def want FX though.

  41. 102
    ) Jim

    It seems to me that the true argument here should be – ” I SHOULD buy a D600 because…….”

    My 2 cents, for what it’s worth…..BTW I am a serious hobbyist, and not a Pro with deep pockets. My comments are strictly from personal real life experience with many Nikon bodies over the past few years.

    Is the question that D7000 users are on the fence between FX and DX?, wanting a “better” camera? , needing more mega pixels? or believing simply that a new camera from Nikon will improve their shooting abilities.

    Moving to FX changes the shooter’s perspective – which could be a good thing, and I see that as a Positive. However, I feel that (from what I am reading) the D600 will likely be nothing more than that of a D7000 with an FX sensor-

    The D7000 is a fine camera, I”ve owned several. But one needs to remember the market (and marketing) it is geared to. If one seeks a camera with pre-set user modes than a D7000 (or D600) is likely for you . However if you seek better overall performance than I would say look elsewhere as this level of camera will never go to points of performance others will.

    Here’s my point. (one that I do share with others in this thread)
    While the D600 may have more pixels and be an FX sensor, it’s likely NOT to improve much with regards to true camera performance. The AF will very likely be the same, as will overall noise performance. We can all likely agree that it’s build will be similar (it’s an FX sensor in a d7000 body) so no improvements are made here as well…

    New doesn’t always mean better- specifically with performance.
    Shoot with a D300s and you will “feel” the performance difference to that of a D7000.

    Final thought-
    I love the DX platform and am all in favor of a D400 (?) if it is an overal improvement of the D300s.
    If not, it’s another glorified D7000. Nikon needs a real DX body in their lineup. The AF alone will likely be a noticeable factor here (besides weather sealing, quality of build, etc….)

    I am all for MP….. within reason, and as the owner of a D700, feel that Nikon missed the mark here ( as the D800 is NOT an improved D700)- Maybe next go around it will be . I have NO DOUBT that the D600 is not the solution.

    So if better “performance ” is what anyone/everyone is looking for I’d strongly encourage anyone to
    first try an existing, reliable model including that of a gently used D700 to see what driving a “real” camera is like. There is a world of difference to that of the D7000 ( and again, what will be the D600) – and yes, while it is a few years old, “performance” will still be better from it until the day Nikon releases a true D700 replacement.

    Nothing wrong with “older product” especially when improvements are thus far only based on MP, not quality of build and true performance.

    I recently bought a D3s ……..and got a deal on it because someone wanted a D4…
    His loss was my gain…..as this “used” camera smokes in every aspect. And this is one defining reason for mensharing this post…..while this camera will NOT make me a better photographer, performance does matters and it will make a difference in how much you throw out at the end of the day..

    Happy Shooting-

    • 103
      ) David B

      Well two things:
      First having custom 1 and custom 2 which canons xxd and 5d/7d have is very convenient even for professional cameras. Nikon tried to do it with confusing shooting
      Banks on d300/700 but it is much easier and d600
      Will have it

      Second, if the new 24mp fx sensor kills the 36mp sensor in low light
      Will u change ur mind? Let’s wait and see. My
      Prediction is a 24mp sensor developed a year late might just do it.

      The d7000 AF system while not as good
      As d700/800 is better than, for example, 5d mark II, which has been a highly
      Successful camera many (in fact percentage wise more wedding
      Pros) pros use to this day.

      • 104
        ) Jim

        MP’s are not my concern… Can still get great pics with 12+ MP
        ISO performance, AF and quality of build still reign high in my book. Honestly, don’t care about video either (forgot to add this point before- Canon can have it)

        Regarding User settings? One touch of of a preset prgrammed Fn button gets me to ‘My Menu’ where I have instand access to 4 custom set up without reaching for a dial.

        It’s going to take a lot to get me past what a D700 offers/can do (overall everything aside from MP) to change my mind toward a D600….As mentioned, I did just buy a D3s so my D700 is now gone. Unless the D600 is improved upon (from what I’ve read) I’d just assume pay another $1500-1800 for a slightly used or possibly even leftover D700. And if the description of the D600 is accurate, this would likely be my suggestion to anyone on the fence for an FX body. (of course I’d like to try one first)

        I am VERY interested to see how the D400 (if it’s a 400) improves upon the D300′s.
        If it does evolve, it wil become the DX body in my kit.

        • 107
          ) RRRoger

          Quote>
          I am VERY interested to see how the D400 (if it’s a 400) improves upon the D300′s.
          If it does evolve, it wil become the DX body in my kit.<Quote<<<

          The D300 could be improved in every way.
          If a D400 does come out, you will want it!

          I am looking forward the the D600 myself.
          I have been wishing for a D7000 DX for a long time now.

  42. 105
    ) Adrian

    Good points.

    To a degree I decided on a game plan. Then changed it.

    The 700 I am now convinced is what I need and will likely end up with. To be honest, if I had a D700 now neither the 800 or 600 would be considerations. I’d wait for a true 700 replacement. IF Nikon do one that is!!

    Problem is I don’t and I like to carefully ponder big expenditure items, and even at $1,900 the 700 is still a big enough spend for me. The more I thought the more I decided I should wait and see exactly what the 600 brings. At the moment it’s all speculation, even the specs and despite the pics. Albeit I’d now be surprised if it wasn’t a D7000 FX. I thought I’d wait and see.

    Then, if the 600 turns out to be better than the 700 at high ISO, esp if it’s by 2 stops, even if the camera is 7000 style with menus v buttons I’d likely go for it. Caveats being how the AF performs and precisely what sensor is used.

    If however it turns out to be only as good as a D700 in a 7000 body I’d go for the 700. Either way, there is a potential for the 700 price to drop again. Or, Nikon will use up it’s parts inventory for it, discontinue and replace it, or not.

    Different people will choose the path they take for different reasons. Some may not even think about all the implications. For me, I want a change for much improved low light. Other benefits of changing to an FX will be:

    1) IQ and colour rendition
    2) DOF rendition
    3) Making the best use of my 2.8 Nikkor zooms

    And where a 700 (or hopefully a direct replacement) is concerned

    4) Button v menu accessed features for quick changes
    5) Very good AF
    6) Weather proofing
    7) Build quality

    Yes I’m concerned about the potential hot-shoe issue but I’m also concerned about the 600 AF system and constraints to hit a price.

    I’m swinging more to just grabbing a 700 now except for the fact that the 600 may trigger a further price drop, and will also allow me to compare what the 600 spec is v what it might be. Gamble though, 700s may be tough to find if they drop in price again or even given that they have already.

    Common sense to wait for the 600 in some ways. Risky in others :-(

    • 106
      ) Jim

      Makes sense to me…… Only challenge i see is by the time the D600 comes out most, if not all “young” (10k shots or less) D700′s will be gone. But personally I’d prefer very good performance of older (even with 30k shots on it) over OK performance of new if the price were to be be the same, or close to it. And who knows, you might even luck out and get a better deal on a D700!

      • 108
        ) babola

        Agree totally. I’ve spoken to a large camera retailer who commented how the price of new D700 is likely to go lower in coming weeks as a result of ‘peer’ pressure from both the top (d800) and the bottom (new D600). By the way he confirmed D600 is REAL, not a result of some crazy photoshop attempt to fool the masses or likewise. He also believes (and he’s been in the SLR business for over 30 years now) that judging by the D600 specs it won’t be even a close ‘replacement’ for D700, but more a stepping stone and entry point into full-frame class.

        Nikon is basically testing the waters with this budget FX camera to get the feel how much interest and demand is really there from both people wishing to upgrade from DX or a brand new entrants into a domain of a full frame DSLR.

        I’m personally awaiting for the D700 falls under $2k for new or little less for little-used one and I’ll be all over it. 12Mp was the only factor that held me back from this decision for a while but after talking with some full-time pros using D700 on daily basis (I’m sure Nasim could chip in here as well :)) 12Mega is more that sufficient for most of us, enthusiasts and pros alike.

  43. 109
    ) Peter

    Hi Nasim,

    Firstly, thanks for your and your friends work to make us the decision easier.
    Actually I suppose the more I read the comments above, the more I getting confused.

    Today I have a D7000. Most of the time I’m glad with it, but in low light conditions I’m chagrined at it’s weak AF efficiency. It hesitate and at the end miss the focus. But as you wrote before man have to known how to use it.

    Last year I tried a D700. Well it was great. The AF was very very good.
    In fact it has a larger viewfinder, pentaprism and sensor.
    So do you think the 39-point AF system can work better in a full frame body, with a larger pentaprism and sensor, or we get a weak AF system, that hesitate and miss focus in low light?

    Thanks.

    Peter

    • 110
      ) RRRoger

      The D7000 AF is actually very good
      Can you imagine how much better it will be with better
      FX Sensor
      Expeed 3 Processor
      Metering
      and advancing technologies?

      • 111
        ) Peter

        I hope you’re right Roger, and the upcoming Nikon D600 will be a good camera, and we will like it’s size, weight, layout of controls, and AF system.

  44. 112
    ) Mike

    Let me comment on what I think will drive the D600′s features- marketing.

    I think that over the last few years Nikon has heard the pleadings of it’s user base and will respond with a camera aimed at those who want to (relatively) inexpensively step up from DX or buy into FX as their first body. I think that the D600′s primary function will be to target that group. Currently, there are two choices for those buyers; a new or used D700 (assuming it will be out of production soon) or a D800, which doesn’t qualify as inexpensive, thus isn’t on the upgraded/first time FX buyer’s radar. That creates a vacuum at a price point between the D7000 and D700, i.e. $1200-$2200 or about $1700.

    Trying to appeal to those segments, I think that the D600′s features will be simple and will create a new user segment, the FX entry users, which will complement the enthusiasts (D700 and wealthy D3 and D800 users) and pros (D3, D4, and D800 users).

    Specs and features. As such, I think the D600 could have: 24mp, scene and priority modes (PASM), 100% viewfinder, improved autofocus over the D700/D7000 (so as to lure D700 upgraders), Expeed 3, USB 3.0, improved menus, 1080p/60, internal flash (perhaps from the D800), native ISO 100-6400 with improved high ISO noise reduction processing from the D800, 51 point AF, and improved control placement over the D700/D7000.

    Price. With the D7000 body currently at $1100 and the D700 body at $2200 (BH photo video data as of today), there is a natural slot for the D600 at about $1699. That would put it conveniently between the D7000 and D800 prices, but still affordable for someone thinking about buying the D7000. When the D700 goes out of production, that price should look even more attractive, compared to the only other reasonable FX alternative, the D800.

    But wait, there’s more. The D7000 is due for an upgrade and the D7100 or D400 has been rumored for some time. I think there is a case to be made that the D400 (I’m guessing that Nikon will stay with its odd/even designations) will have many of the same features as the D600 in a DX body, including a sensor with comparable pixel density to the D600. My guess on the D400 price is about $1200-$1300 to remain consistent with the D7000 pricing, but reflect improved capabilities.

    With that guessing, we’d have the D400 ($1300), D600 ($1700), and D800 ($3000). So, I think Nikon could send a clear message to the entry level FX customers that you could get a full-featured DX body or spend a little more and get the same features in an entry level FX body.

    A lot of guessing here(aka hot air or BS), but who knows?

    Oh yeah, wouldn’t be out of the question and very cool to see both the D400 and D600 released simultaneously just before Photokina. If so, if you thought the backlog for the D800 was big, this one could be massive, especially for the Japan-produced D600.

    Mike

    Conclusion.

  45. 113
    ) zinger

    The main issue with photography these days is there too many analysts and not even near enough photographers.

    • 114
      ) Drazen.B

      Well said brother…sad but true.

  46. 116
    ) Bill

    We all will just have to wait. Hopefully not too long.

    • 123
      ) egjavier photography

      i hope waiting for it to be released, is worth it, Nikon shld be the ones advertising its release…i hope its true cause im also eager to have 1 myself.!

  47. 117
    ) David Mitchell

    I am a Nikon owner who is saving to upgrade to FX format. For the last couple of years, I have been doing a lot of live performance photography in low light at high ISO’s, so I want the lower noise levels of a full frame camera. Bearing this in mind, would you recommend a D600 or D700 (D800 & D4 being too much of a stretch financially)?

    • 119
      ) aron

      Hey David, I do a lot of concert photography (either in dark little night clubs or large venues) for newspapers in the Bay Area… you would be fine with either the D600 or D700 for that work. I would suggest that you make sure to have really good lenses, either primes or a fixed F/2.8 aperture and shoot at wide open, and just use shutter speed and ISO to correct for lower light. Anything under a ISO 6400 you should be able to clean up the noise in post.

      The 600 will give you a larger image file, which is good if you are working with primes… so you can crop the image down and it will still be of decent size for publications or prints. The 700 will give you a smaller file but the focusing is suppose to be crisper and faster.

      A D3S would also be an option because of the additional ISO stop, but unless you are selling images to Rolling Stone Magazine, I wouldn’t suggest spending $5K on a used D3s. You’d be better suited to buy either the D600/700 and good lenses.

      hope that helps

      • 122
        ) David

        Thanks aron, concise and to the point.

  48. 118
    ) Mike

    David,

    Two answers:
    1- Before doing anything, are you using good noise reduction software and shooting within the native ISO range of your camera? I use Nik’s Define 2 and it really does a great job.
    2- My D700 has a native ISO up to 6400 and at that level noise is manageable. Anything higher and you begin to see increasing levels of noise, even though it will shoot up to 26,500. At that level, the noise is really gross.

    The D700 in combination with good noise reduction software and lenses may be a big help, but who knows what the D600 ISO performance will be?

    Of course, you could always try for a bargain on a used D3s, if there is such a thing.

    Mike

    • 120
      ) Adrian

      Roger made some good points which are tempting me to hold off on the D700 now.

      “The D7000 AF is actually very good
      Can you imagine how much better it will be with better
      FX Sensor
      Expeed 3 Processor
      Metering
      and advancing technologies?”

      The other potential benefits of the 600 for me would be:

      Native ISO 100
      100% VF
      Dual card slots

      To me, none of the above are things to disregard lightly. On the downside, of course the 600 may not have the build quality or the ‘pro’ style body of the 700,but what’s important, to me, capturing clean high ISO images without the D4 costs. I’ll just go for the best there is in the $2,000 price range.

      Sure the D7000 style body robs the camera of some direct (button) driven functionality, but we are seeing that already with the 800 to accommodate video controls.

      The D700 is yet to be replaced IMO, and I hope it will be. But neither the 800 or the 600 do it. In some respects I’m tempted to get the 700, a very capable camera, and use that until the 700 IS replaced (or even just keep it, period) but in many ways it seems to make sense to wait for the 600. If it does the high-ISO just as well, or even better, the loss of the pro style body may be compensated for by the features mentioned above. That way, you will have a current model 600 to move on when/if the 700 IS replaced, rather than the current 700, prices for which may depress further once the 600 arrives on the scene.

      • 121
        ) babola

        “Sure the D7000 style body robs the camera of some direct (button) driven functionality…”

        I wouldn’t be so sure about this. I own a D7000 and apart from dual-dial design and lack of RC terminal and flash connectors on the front it looks nothing like D600. Also bear in mind no one has yet reported on button/controls layout at the back of the D600.

        In general people should stop calling D600 an “FX camera in D7000 body”…as it simply isn’t, even by the looks of the top and the front.

        • 124
          ) RRRoger

          For $1500 I would be happy if the D600 was merely an FX stuffed into a D7000 body.
          However technology seldom goes backwards.
          I expect better Video, AF, metering, and image quality.

  49. 125
    ) juan

    I have the d7000 and the Sony a77, but if this camera is real…I can’t wait to get it, because the d7000 is pretty good but with a full frame sensor and 24 megapixels, will be, in paper at least, the more aggressive step made by Nikon in the last 10 years….that will create a chain reaction in the full frame market, if Nikon succeed, the apc-s sensor cameras are going to become very less attractive to amateurs. For long time prohibit prices for many full frames cause that people can’t get those cameras, cameras exist only for a fraction of the market than apc-s cameras for many, so I think that also Nikon is trying to get the attention of the market that is captive by cameras type NEX,Pen,Pencil…or whatever they are called….will see…

    regards

  50. 126
    ) Matthias

    Miss the BKT button and quick acess to ISo. Hope that Nikon does not dare to offer the camera like this.

    • 128
      ) babola

      I doubt the D600 will come with BKT and ISO push buttons as this model won’t fall under Nikon’s DSLR pro-line, anyway.
      Think “D7000″ styling, size, features and philosophy targeted at the FX-format photo-enthusiast rather than a demanding pro photographer.
      But then again none has yet seen the back of the new D600.

      • 129
        ) RRRoger

        Yes we want to see the back of the D600.

        I think Nikon is targeting the broadest of markets with the D600.
        True it cannot have all Pro features at that price but
        lots of Pros do use the D7000 and even the D70 has been used at Events to shoot photos for money.
        And a cheaper, smaller, lighter FX camera may fill the bill better for my Event Photography.

        Now a days most people are “capturing the moment” with their cell phones anyway.
        I now sell more reduced size images on my website than FullSize images and my printer sits idle most of the time
        The main advantage I have is being able to shoot from places they cannot access.
        That and being blessed with skills only a few will eclipse.

        • 131
          ) babola

          As a backup, yes. I’ve been using D5000 as backup body for some time quite happily, and wouldn’t mind to upgrade to something little more serious and capable.

      • 130
        ) Zoltan

        Pretty much in line with my thinking.

        Too many people are trying to squeeze the new D600 into an area it simply doesn’t belong. Will it be a great camera capable of assisting a good photographer taking nice photos? – Yup, most likely. Will it be a one-size-fits all camera? – no, no it won’t.

        Many of us amateurs & photo enthusiasts will welcome this camera with open hands and use it as our primary shooting tool, but it’s more likely to be reduced to a backup FX camera body for those who find photography as a profession and rely on it as a main source of their income.

  51. 132
    ) charlie

    Hello Mr. Mansurovs

    Any update on the anoucement ? July, August, Sept….. I hope soon.

    Thank you very much!

    Charlie

  52. 133
    ) TommyTobasco

    I am looking to purchase a d7000… and even when/if the d600 comes out, It seems that I will still get the d7000… Right now the going price for a d7000 is around $1099 (some stores selling it under $900)… the d600 might sell for around $1800 or $1900… my question is: What will the d600 do to the price of the d7000?… do you believe it will cause it to go down or up?… if the price will dramatically go down, I will wait until the d600 is release in September before buying the d7000 instead of buying it now… what do you think the price of a d7000 will be when the d600 is released?

    • 134
      ) RRRoger

      The D400 will effect the price of the D7000 more than the D600.
      But, just increasing the supply of cameras will have some effect.
      It is Nikon’s call, they set the prices.

  53. 136
    ) sam

    how about nikon d5100 and nikon d600?can you give me a recomended,which one is better d5100 or nikon d600.

    • 137
      ) RRRoger

      The D600 is a rumor.
      I don’t think it is Vaporware, but until released we do not know for sure what the specs and price will be.
      I am hoping to have one in my hands this year.

      The D5100 is available today.
      If you can’t wait, get a D5100 it is a great camera.

    • 138
      ) Eagle

      well if the specs for d600 are true, the comparison bettwen d600 and d5100 would be like comparing a BMW with a ford, lol, well not exactly but the d600 would be better, bigger sensor, full viewfinder, 2 card slots, more MP, faster fps, 420 pixel metering sensor vs 91.000 pixel metering sensor and so on, but that doesn not mean that d510o is a bad camera, the 5100 class is mid-range it is not entery-level and d600 will be semi-pro and bettewn mid-range and semi-pro comes high end (d7000) so it is not exactly fair to comper a mid-range with a semi-pro

  54. 139
    ) Eagle

    i ll probably buy d600 with nikon 28mm 1.8g lens and tamaron 70-300mm USD VC lens, since i am on a budget now, though both of the lens are very very good

    • 140
      ) Drazen B.

      Not a bad idea, unless you already own a wide angle zoom or another prime you’re leaving yourself ‘open’ in both the wide-angle and normal-angle 50mm areas. But your shooting style and requirements may well differ from mine.

      I own 50mm f/1.8 and 24-120 f4 Nikkor FX lenses and currently looking for a telephoto zoom, most likely from 3rd party like you. Etra wide zoom is also on the radar but will have to wait a little.

      • 142
        ) Eagle

        when i refuel my budget ill buy someting wider but right now after looking and searching for a good wide angel i couldnt find anything with the same price as 28mm and with the same quality but with a wider focal lenght of 18, 16mm, there are lens that match the critiria but they are DX, right now after selling old stuff and speeding money on someting else cept photograpy i cannont afford everything
        immediately

      • 143
        ) Eagle

        “it is dam sharp, just check the ken rockwells review about it, it has super integrated coting”
        LOL i just read u alerady own the 50mm so u know it sharpness

  55. 141
    ) Eagle

    right now, i have second thought and i need for wildlife something a bit stronger than 300mm so i will probably chose the sigma 150-500mm lens and nikon 28mm 1.8g, and then probably buy nikon 50mm 1.8d then the only gap i will have is 70mm for portreits, so those 3 lens with D600, i buying my new equipment, i have choesd the 150 to 500mm for it great price to quality ratio also althoug it is a third party lens, belive me it preforms like canons l series, well not exactly, but looking at the phots taken with it and 100% crops i am impressd, so Nikon 50mm f/1.8 D + Sigma 150-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM + AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f/1.8G

    the Sigma 150-500mm is apochromatic, thoug not as apochromatic as 5k prime lens but with 3 SLD glass inside it is very good, when comes to chromatic abberation and sharppnes, the built quality is very good a mix of metal and plastic, and it is very very large like above 40cm when with the hood and fully extended and weights almost 2 kilos which isnt too heavy for a super tele.

    the Nikon 28mm 1.8g is nano coted and has 1.8 aperture, nano coted is found in most expensive lens of nikon, thoug some 1,5k lens have it, no lens under 1k have cept 28 and it is found in 500 and 600mm primes, plus it has 2 aspherical glass elements and super integrated coting

    the nikon 50mm is very very sharp, though it doesn not have any ED or aspherical lens elements nor nano coting, it is dam sharp, just check the ken rockwells review about it, it has super integrated coting

    sigma, tamaron and other third party companies dont have a way to get to the market, so they need to lower down the prices sevearly. The quality of the lens like sigma 150-500mm is very good, metal and plastic, 2kg of glass, well 2kg of polycarbonat, glass and metal, 3 SLD glass so APO lens, 21 glass elements in total, MTF charter looks promising, an awesome OS system, thier hyper-sonic engine with a nice AF speed and a rear focusing

    combine all of this with d600 24MP Full frame and a polarising filter and the results are perfect

    and u said leving wide open in wide angle, 28mm is wide angle, 24 is wide angel, and below is ultra wide, used for arhitecture etc. the 28mm is fine for landscape , group shots and general, 50mm is fine for street and general, thoug 35mm is a better focal lenght for street.

  56. 144
    ) William

    Interesting times indeed. I was going to buy the D800, but both the bodies I had displayed the dreaded left AF issue so I stuck with 2 d700 bodies. My intention is to upgrade once things settle. Thia D600 gives me another choice but the reservation I would have is the AF system. I’ve been doing more wedding work this year hence the AF is important and I will probably wait for the D800 to get sorted for sure.

    The D600 is a surefire winner though and for landscape or studio work is looking great

    William

  57. 145
    ) Darren F

    I will keep my D700 and just upgrade my lenses. I was considering an upgrade to a D800, but I think that a 3DS would be a better upgrade once prices go down. The D600 would be a downgrade imo. Everyone else can talk about the specs of their newer, shinier camera. I will keep on creating beautiful images now, and my trusty D700 will allow for me to do just that.

  58. 146
    ) Steve

    Are you sure those photos are genuine and not just a D7000 mocked up? :-) It certainly doesn’t look as business like or robust as the D800, be interesting to what sensor finally goes into it and whether the quality control is better than the D7000 at the price point it’s set at.

  59. 147
    ) EagleS

    new rumors appering that d600 will have 51 af points, gps and wi-fi

  60. 148
    ) Kirby

    Any updates on a possible release date? Should I just buy the D800 now with the expectation that it will still be the better camera once the D600 is released? Or should I continue to wait so that I could put the extra money towards getting a 24-70 f/2.8. As far as lenses go, I only have the 14-24 f/2.8, a 50 f/1.4G, and the 70-200 f/2.8 VRI. Anyone have the 24-70 f/2.8 that could make a good case to why I would want to have a midzoom range?

    • 149
      ) RRRoger

      I am quite sure the D800 will still be the better camera,
      Except for two things.
      1. Size and weight.
      Many prefer a bigger heavier camera anyway.
      2. Price
      The difference would buy you a 28-300.
      This lens is pretty much dedicated to my D800.
      The best reason to buy a 24-70 would be f/2.8 but
      you already have the 14-24 and 70-200 for that.

      Anyway we should know the actual price and specs of the D600 in a few weeks.

      • 152
        ) EagleS

        D800 VS D600
        FX VS FX
        36MP VS 24MP
        4.9 PIXEL SIZE VS 5.9 PIXEL SIZE
        EXPEED 3 VS EXPEED 3
        91K METERING VS 91K METERING
        51 AF VS 39 AF *
        100-6400 ISO VS 100-6400 ISO
        4FPS VS 5FPS

        * new rumurs say that D600 will have 51 AF

        so with D800 u will get a better autofocus*, more detail,

        and with D600 u will get higher FPS, probably better low light performance 4.9 vs 5.9 pixel size,

        and rest is the same both will have and have weather seling, 2 card slots, 100 % viewfinder

    • 150
      ) Drazen B.

      Agree with Roger’s comments above. Mind you if you have the means I’d also go for 24-70 f/2.8 rather than all-in-one zoom lens since you’re already covered in extra-wide and telephoto ranges as you stated.

      However, there are rumors (aren’t they always :) ) that Nikon is about to release a long awaited replacement for their popular pro-level wide-angle 24-70G zoom with an updated nano-coated 24-70 F/2.8V ED VRII – if this is really true I’d wait a little longer for this one if I were you.

      Up to you bud :)

  61. 151
    ) Kirby

    Thanks Drazen B. & RRRoger for your input. Hmm…a new 24-70 seems very intriguing. If nothing else, maybe it will drive down the prices of the current version on the used market for a purchase at a later time. I did decide on the D800 and have placed an order for one tonight. The speculation of the new D600 not having a Sony sensor worried me a little.

  62. 153
    ) bubai

    Hi Nasim,
    I am a Wedding Photographer, recently started some small event photography too. I have a D3100 with DX 18-105mm & SB 700 Flash. As with my D3100 is not delivering me “Sharp enough” pics without my Flashgun in any ‘ EVENT CEREMONY ‘ (in case of HIGH ISO). Now willing to move to a FX body in coming future, as we all know, that there is a rumor of D600 a FX Body is might coming soon in near X-mas.
    Now i have a question due to my “tight budget”, i may not purchase any FX lenses(AS ALL ARE SO COSTLY) with the body. Can i use my DX 18-105 mm lens with that FX BODY.
    What are the problems i have to face for this ? plz tell me in details …. Thanks in advance.

    • 154
      ) David B

      Don’t know how anyone does weddings with D3100 and 18-105, it is a disjustice to the parties involved. 18-105 for anything other than basic walkaround vacation type shooting? Terrible idea at a first place. Just like shooting wedding with a single camera only, what if the camera breaks in the middle of the wedding? You’ll tell them to stop the wedding as you need to go and buy another camera or borrow one? You’ll ruin the best day of their lives! So irresponsible, I sometimes can’t believe what people get away with!

      Sorry for my rant. To answer your question you 18-105 will not work with your FX camera in FX mode. You will have a large black circle with a tiny picture in it, the circle will get smaller as you are zooming from 18 to 105 but this is unusable. You can use your 18-105 on FX in DX mode, which means it will operate at about 40% Megapixels (meaning 36MP D800 becomes 15.1MP in DX mode) and you will be using just a portion of your viewfinder. The 24MP D600 will be approximately 9 or 10MP in DX mode. It’ll be the same as D3X in DX mode.

      There are plenty of inexpensive FX lenses by the way. You can use older AF-D and AF lenses, because unlike your D3100, they will all actually autofocus on the FX bodies (unless D600 comes out with removed in-body motor, which the rumor says, is not true, it should have the motor)

  63. 155
    ) ferds

    still waiting for this D600 …. I guess its just another bogus advertising …

  64. 156
    ) Regina Stomvorst

    No news since the leaked pictures. I wonder if there’s ever going to be a D600. Maybe Nikon waits a while so enough D800′s will be sold. Maybe there never will be a D600. I know I’m holding on to my old D700. They will have to rip it from my dead hands.

    • 158
      ) Steve

      I don’t think Nikon is waiting for more sales of the D800 before releasing the D600 as the camera’s are aimed at different markets, i.e. professional and amateur. The D600 will not have the build quality of the D700 or the egonomics or pro features. But it does suggest that Nikon is going to run two grades of FX which makes you wonder how long DX will be around especially now CCS format (V1) is taking off. Lets put it this way I won’t be buying anymore DX lenses. I think the D600 release price will be near to $2000 than the $1500 I’ve heard, this would bring it in line with the D800 now the D700 is no longer in the lineup. Let’s hope the video is improved, maybe that’s what they’re tweaking now lol.

  65. 157
    ) Nion

    Time is ripe now….just wait for 10 more days !!!! …… building the dream again …… we all love it .

  66. 159
    ) Nion

    Final specifications for D600 …

    > Dimensions ( W x H x D ) : 136 x 110 x 77 mm
    > Weight : 790g (with battery &MC 880g)
    > Hybrid body of Magnesium alloy (on top & back) and plastic
    > Weather sealed
    > Sensor size : 36.00 x 23.9 mm CMOS sensor
    > Total pixel : 24.7 MP
    > Expeed 3 processor
    > 91K 3D color Matrix Metering
    > NEF 14 bit lossless compressed / compressed
    > 3.2″ LCD with 921 K dot with ambient sensor control
    > Image sensor cleaning system
    > HDMI output
    > Video compression :H264/MPEG-4
    > Full HD with 30p,25p,24p,HD with 60p,50p,30p,25p
    > Built-in microphone
    > Maximum video recording : 30 minutes
    > Electronically controlled vertical travel focal plane shutter
    > Maximum shutter speed of 1/8000 (Not 1/4000)
    > Shutter life : 150,000 cycles
    > Startup delay 400 ms
    > Shutter lag 197 ms
    > Pentaprism Viewfinder with 100% coverage
    > Built- in AF motor
    > No built-in GPS
    > ISO range : 100-6400 (with Lo-1 ISO 50 and Hi-2 ISO 25,600)
    > Multi CAM 3500FX Autofocus system with 51 AF points including 15 cross type sensors
    > AF face detection
    > Exposure compensation : +/- 5 EV
    > EN-EL 15 rechargeable battery
    > 5fps (with battery grip 7/8 fps)
    > 2 SD slots with Eye-fi support
    > Two user settings : U1 & U2
    > Fn button
    > Auto Dx crop
    > In camera RAW editor
    > Built-in HDR
    > Built-in flash with sync speed of 1/250s
    > The price : $ 1700
    > Announcement date : 12th Sept 2012 (Wednesday)

    • 160
      ) Yeotan

      Not quite…

      These are the specs I received 2 days ago:

      - Full-frame intermediate/enthusiast level 24MP FX Nikon camera with DX support
      - Partial Magnesium alloy internal body (top + back), the rest is policarbonate
      – Fully weather sealed
      - Total pixel : 24.7 MP
      - Expeed 3 processor
      - 91K 3D color Matrix Metering
      - Pentaprism optical viewfinder – 98% coverage
      - Internal AF motor
      - 39 A/F points, 11 cross-type sensors
      – Single-point AF; 9-, 21- or 39-point dynamic-area AF, 3D-tracking, auto-area AF
      - AF face detection
      - Exposure compensation 5 to +5 EV in increments of 1/3 or 1/2 EV
      - Exposure modes: Auto (auto; auto [flash off]), scene (portrait, landscape, child, sports, close up, night portrait, night landscape, party/indoor, beach/snow, sunset, dusk/dawn, pet portrait, candlelight, blossom, autumn colors, food, silhouette, high key, low key), programmed auto with flexible program (P), shutter-priority auto (S), aperture-priority auto (A), manual (M), U1, U2 (user settings)
      - Wide ISO range : 100-6400 (with Lo-1 ISO 50 and Hi-1 ISO 12,600, Hi-2 ISO 25,600)
      - Sensor size : 36.00 x 23.9 mm CMOS sensor
      - Built-in flash with sync speed of 1/250s
      - TTL: i-TTL balanced fill-flash and standard i-TTL flash for digital SLR using 2,016-pixel RGB sensor are available with built-in flash and SB-900, SB-800, SB-700, SB-600 or SB-400 (i-TTL balanced fill-flash is available when matrix or center-weighted metering is selected)
      - Auto aperture: Available with SB-900/SB-800 and CPU lens
      - Non-TTL auto: Supported flash units include SB-900, SB-800, SB-28, SB-27 and SB-22S
      - Distance-priority manual: Available with SB-900, SB-800 and SB-700
      - Exposure compensation : +/- 5 EV
      - NEF (RAW): 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed or compressed
      - JPEG: JPEG-Baseline compliant with fine (approx. 1:4), normal (approx. 1:8) or basic (approx. 1:16) compression (Size priority); Optimal quality compression available
      - NEF (RAW) + JPEG: Single photograph recorded in both NEF (RAW) and JPEG formats
      - 5fps (DX mode with battery grip 6-7 fps)
      - LCD: 3.2″ with 921,000 pixels, contrast adjustable
      - HDMI output
      - Video: H.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding
      - Full HD with 30p,25p,24p,HD with 60p,50p,30p,25p
      - Maximum video recording : 30 minutes
      - Electronically controlled vertical travel focal plane shutter
      - 1/8,000 to 30 s in steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV, bulb, time
      - Shutter lifespan as tested : 150,000 cycles (Lab test only)
      - Shutter lag 155 ms
      - EN-EL 15 rechargeable battery
      - 2 SD slots one with Eye-fi support, No CF slots
      - Support for DX lenses
      - Auto DX crop
      - In camera RAW editor
      - Built-in HDR
      - Dimensions ( W x H x D ) : 136 x 110 x 77 mm
      - Weight : 790g (with EN-EL-15 battery)

      - RRP on launch (week before Photokona) – US$ 1599; EUR $1500

      • 161
        ) Nion

        Hi Yeotan, I don’t know how much reliable is your source but it is confirmed that the AF system will be 51 points with 15 cross type. Let’s wait and see.Thank you.

        • 162
          ) EagleS

          awesome love it love it

          so we will get a full frame camera that packs 24MP with 5.95µm pixel size, witha coloure depth of of 14bits and 16bit procesing pipeline, with a profesional auto focus of 51 af points and 91k rgb meter and expeed 3 procesor all of that in a fully weather sealed body with 2 card slots and a 100% pentaprism viewfinder

          • 166
            ) Mock Kenwell

            Highly unlikely.

            Those specs will put it on-par with D800/800E which isn’t something Nikon was planning to do by releasing an entry+enthusiast level FX camera.

            • 169
              ) EagleS

              Consumer

              1.Entry-level (D3200, D3100)
              2.Mid-range (D5100)
              3.Advanced (D7000)

              Professional

              1.Compact
              1.D300s-Lower-end pro camera
              2.D700, D800 higher-end pro camera

              2.Flagship

              1.D3s, D4 – fast, accurat camera used for sports and action (low-noise, high ISO, fast AF, high FPS)
              2.D3x – a slower camera used both for studio and out – high MP count

            • 170
              ) EagleS

              The D600 falls into Professional 2. category with D700 and D800 !

              We have a pro AF, a Full Frame weather sealed body with dual card slots and 100% viewfinder, coupled with 24MP with 5.95 pixel size along a 91K RGB sensor and expeed 3 procesor

            • 172
              ) Cliff Joiner

              @EagleS

              D600 isn’t Nikon professional camera.
              It’s entry level FX camera for amateurs and enthusiasts. Also, the AF will most likely be 39-points, rather than 51 points.

            • 173
              ) EagleS

              BABOLA

              TELL ME WHY WILL D600 BE WORSE THAN D800 AND D700?????

              TEH CAMERA IS WORSE THAN D4 CUZ IT WONT HAVE 10FPS AND 100.000 ISO !!

              D800 VS D600
              FX VS FX
              36MP VS 24MP
              4.9 PIXEL SIZE VS 5.9 PIXEL SIZE
              EXPEED 3 VS EXPEED 3
              91K METERING VS 91K METERING
              51 AF VS 51 AF
              100-6400 ISO VS 100-6400 ISO
              4FPS VS 5FPS
              14bit vs 14bit
              16 bit procesing vs 16 bit procesing

            • 175
              ) Cliff Joiner

              Again, EagleS…this is where you’re wrong:

              91K METERING VS 91K METERING
              51 AF VS 51 AF

              That’s based on unfounded rumours that re-surfaced yesterday. The D600 won’t come with it, believe it or not. Up to you.
              Babola is right, the D600 will not be what you call a “professional” camera.

            • 180
              ) EagleS

              @cliff

              it is not me who is wrong, it is the rumors
              we cant know anything for sure, ok
              maybe this camera will have 91k maybe it wont
              i am just saying that IF the rumors are true THEN !

              so i am saying if the camera will have 51 af and other stuff mentioned above then it will be pro but if not then it will probably be high/end consumer or semi pro

        • 165
          ) Mock Kenwell

          Where did you get the 51 focus points from?

          I also heard 39 fp with 11 X-type from number of leads.

          • 167
            ) EagleS

            the 51 af points were suggestd by ken rockwell and also from a photo of some thiland photographer

            • 171
              ) babola

              Ken Rockwell is hardly someone to be considered as an authority on new and incoming product specs.

              And no, sorry…D600 will not fall under professional Nikon camera product group as you suggested. It’s not rocket science to understand why.

            • 174
              ) EagleS

              babola ken rockwell knows quite a few people from nikon

            • 176
              ) Mandy.Smith

              EagleS wrote: “babola ken rockwell knows quite a few people from nikon”

              That’s what Ken would like you to believe.
              Nikon doesn’t care about him anymore than they care about the rest of us. Yes, Ken’s NPS accreditation helps to sit closer to the throne then some of us mortals, but that really means stuff-all.

            • 178
              ) EagleS

              i dont care about Ken, ok

  67. 163
    ) EagleS

    FPS will probbably be 7 or 8 in a DX mode, d3x which has expeed 1 procesor has 7 fps in dx, adn this is expeed 3 procesor so i hope that with a new procesor we will get 8 fpS in DX

  68. 164
    ) Hermenpaca

    I find that both “final specifications” mention an unusually high shutter lag: 197-155ms. Strange to believe those figures, taking into account the values for other cameras:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutter_lag

    • 168
      ) EagleS

      well 24MP is a lot, but maybe it will be smaller

  69. 177
    ) EagleS

    IF 91 RGB sensor and Multi cam 3500fx wont be emplyed in d600 THEN u cant call it a pro camera IF WE SEE A 91K RGB SENSOR AND 51AF ALONG WITH OTHER STUFF THEN THIS CAMERA IS PRO

    • 179
      ) Rockefeller Skank

      And why are you yelling you bozo!?

      Drop that coffee go out and get some air.

      • 181
        ) Mock Kenwell

        +1

        Post of the day :)

      • 182
        ) EagleS

        xDD Whi is yelling, that just caps lock ON, xD

        if i were yelling i would have used ” !!!!!! “

  70. 183
    ) Nion

    Crazy boys…!!!!…..Don’t you know that Nikon has discontinued the old monk D700 and placed it in their archive (go to the Nikon site)…..so who will take guard of that place ? If that place is filled by a “Toy” or kept vacant then Canon,sony , etc. etc. will jump and push all their three legs into the sweet hole !! D800 is not going to fill that place because that is made totally for different purpose. So, D600 is the camera with above specs getting prepared to sit their.

    • 184
      ) Nikon Man

      The D700 is solid and very well built and the D600 will be very tiny and plastic. That is why we are still waiting for a replacement of the D700.

      • 185
        ) EagleS

        absolutely true, if D600 were to be tiny and light, i will have second thoughts

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